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Manitou Black Comp - After Six Months
by Lester Lin
Feb. 2002: I now have had the Black for 6 months.
This fork has been moved from my FSR Comp to a Giant XcX that has
a little more rear suspension travel, and a slacker head tube angle.
When mounted on the FSR, you could say that at 100mm, the suspension
front and rear was perfectly balanced. You could sit on the saddle,
bounce up and down, and the front and rear would respond equally
in travel and rebound feel. Going over bumps would produce equal
feedback from the front and rear. On the XcX, your weight is distributed
more heavily on your rear, and thus seems to do more bump absorbing
work than the front. Smaller bumps that register on the front fork
are hardly felt when the rear rolls over. For me, as much as I loved
the balanced feel of the FSR, I'd choose the XcX for the majority
of the terrain here in Taiwan. When the going gets tough, I am always
glad to be on the XcX, especially due to the huge amount of height
adjustment available for the seat. You just can't believe the difference
that getting the seat down way low makes on the really steep stuff.
Anyway, back to forks........
Either I have gotten used to the Rapid Travel Adjustment, or it
has gotten easier to adjust. It has worked dependably and flawlessly.
As I became more confident in the reliability of the height adjustment,
I started using it more. When you lock the fork down to 80mm, amazingly,
it gives you a very nice firm ride, yet smooths out the rougher
bumps. On difficult technical climbs, or those long "grind
your guts out" hills, the lowered front end really helps to
keep your front end on the ground, keep a better balance, and give
you a more efficient climbing position. Compared to a 2002 Psylo
U Turn adjusted down to 80mm, the Black spring rate seems much more
appropriate for this setting. The Psylo, with stock springs bottoms
out very easily compared to the Black with stock springs at 80mm.
One time, I forgot to raise the fork back to 100mm after a climb,
and went through the roughest toughest section of a ride in the
"short" position. I was wondering why I was hitting my
pedals on obstacles more than usual, and why I caught my Chain ring
slightly on a root. Only after getting to the road did I realize
that my fork was still down at 80mm! In after thought the fork felt
pleasantly firm and stiff in this position,
The rebound dampening has also maintained good performance. You
can still tell the difference between the full rebound dampening
position compared to the lesser positions. A fellow rider did buy
a new Black Comp about a month ago identical to mine. When we were
comparing forks, his had no noticeable rebound dampening at all,
so buyer beware.
I am not an expert rider, but I think that I ride rougher terrain
on a regular basis than at least 75 to 90% of the Mt. Bikers out
there. The pounding that this fork has taken over the last 6 months
should be more than the majority of Mt. Bikers will dish out. Be
it understood that I don't have a kangaroo complex. I don't constantly
do 4ft.+ drops. Maybe 8 or so in the last 6 months, so I am not
qualified to comment on the durability for that kind of use. I have
noticed that on mtbreview.com, many have complained about the stock
spring being too soft. I am an average 77 kgs. (170 lbs.), and the
springs suit me just fine with no pre-load whatsoever. I enjoy the
plush ride on the rough terrain. Heck, I didn't get a 100mm fork
for it to feel as stiff as a 80mm travel fork! I also appreciate
locking down to 80mm, and having the nice firm feel. (like getting
out of an SUV, and slinking into a BMW) Yeah, if you are Capt. Kangaroo
and aren't happy unless you are jumping, or are SUMO sized get a
heavier spring. Just realize that you are going to have a tougher
time wrestling the Travel Adjustment down when you want it.
I have also noted that in the past, I used to have nasty falls all
the time. My shins were constantly battered and cut as my nice collection
of scars can verify, and I seemed to be constantly nursing a bruise
somewhere on my body. However, recently, I have noticed that these
nasty falls and bruises have started to become an exception, rather
than the rule. I have no doubt that the Black has played a part
in this evolution.
SCORECARD:
STIFFNESS: All that I could ask for this side of a triple crown
fork. Exceptional at 80mm.
TRAVEL: BUTTERY SMOOTH AND LINEAR at 100mm. Appropriately firmer
at 80mm.
REBOUND ADJUST: More than adequate. I need to run it just at about
90% strength for my liking.
RAPID TRAVEL ADJUST: July 2001: MINUS 10. It's worse to have it
there just tantalizing you , but with not enough design functionally
to encourage it's usage. In essence I give it a BIG Thumbs down.
(This is subject to change as I ride the fork more) Feb 2002: 4
flaming chilis. I have come to see the beauty that was under the
skin through frequent usage. I only wish the adjustment was at the
top instead of at the bottom. (What a change in opinion eh?)
The Answer/Rock Shox rivalry really leaves a buyer with a headache
when it comes to making a decision on what you want. Before trying
the Black, I was sure that I would rather have a Psylo. Especially
after the U turn came out. However, the bottom of the line Black
has performed flawlessly. Can't say the same for some Psylo's that
I have seen, nor for the other Black that I tried. Well, after owning
the Black for 6 months, I may just have to leave that decision up
to the flip of a coin.
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